Comments on: Challenging the Power of the Jewish Lobby: What Should Be Done? http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/ The Civic Platform has been launched to discuss and debate issues related to the West viewed as a cultural compound of Greco-Roman, Christian, and Germanic past. We firmly believe that race informs culture and is a necessary precondition for cultural identity and integrity. Hence, this political vehicle is dedicated to the preservation of the ethnic genetic interests (EGI) of people of European ancestry. Furthermore, since the West faces a demographic crisis of unprecedented proportions (for example, in 1950 Whites represented 30 percent of the world's population. This number will plummet to 8 percent by 2050), we hold that the current trends threatening the racial, historical, and cultural identities of people of European ancestry must be stopped and reversed, if the West is to survive and endure as a distinct racial, historical, and cultural entity. Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:21:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: WJG http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1327 WJG Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:12:58 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1327 Fred, - Good points regarding what's more important - our genocide or the Palestinian's. They - like the rest of the Muslim world - are potential arm's length allies but they could care less about us. We should only care about them insofar as they are useful to us in combating our shared enemy. - We should cut all aid to Israel (as well as Africa) but ZOG will only stopping supporting its bastard child when it is overthrown. - Still Israel is potentially valuable; one cage to throw all the plague-infested rats. - I don't understand Wintermute's comment. Fred,
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Good points regarding what’s more important - our genocide or the Palestinian’s. They - like the rest of the Muslim world - are potential arm’s length allies but they could care less about us. We should only care about them insofar as they are useful to us in combating our shared enemy.
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We should cut all aid to Israel (as well as Africa) but ZOG will only stopping supporting its bastard child when it is overthrown.
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Still Israel is potentially valuable; one cage to throw all the plague-infested rats.
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I don’t understand Wintermute’s comment.

]]> By: Al Ross http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1319 Al Ross Sun, 01 Oct 2006 01:03:22 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1319 Fred Scrooby has a righteous appreciation of race-replacement in the West but has not yet come to view the Jews, in their entirety, as our implacable biological enemies. Wake up and smell the bagels, Fred. Fred Scrooby has a righteous appreciation of race-replacement in the West but has not yet come to view the Jews, in their entirety, as our implacable biological enemies. Wake up and smell the bagels, Fred.

]]> By: Englander http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1317 Englander Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:28:29 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1317 lol, Wintermute has a raging case of anti-semititus, a highly contagious disease, unusual in that it actually leads to better mental health and wellbeing. History - exposure to Jews. Treatment - unnecessary. Prognosis - excellent. lol, Wintermute has a raging case of anti-semititus, a highly contagious disease, unusual in that it actually leads to better mental health and wellbeing.

History - exposure to Jews.
Treatment - unnecessary.
Prognosis - excellent.

]]> By: Fred Scrooby http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1316 Fred Scrooby Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:32:05 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1316 Wintermute, that was an odd suggestion. Did you see something wrong with my comment that you couldn't simply identify and rebut in a reply, the way Englander did? Wintermute, that was an odd suggestion. Did you see something wrong with my comment that you couldn’t simply identify and rebut in a reply, the way Englander did?

]]> By: wintermute http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1315 wintermute Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:01:41 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1315 Is there a way of putting a gold star next to Fred Scrooby's name? He is not motivated by the same concerns which bedevil the majority of posters at this site, and I think that only by making this plainly visible can other readers here consider his pieces with the careful consideration they are due. Is there a way of putting a gold star next to Fred Scrooby’s name? He is not motivated by the same concerns which bedevil the majority of posters at this site, and I think that only by making this plainly visible can other readers here consider his pieces with the careful consideration they are due.

]]> By: Englander http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1314 Englander Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:36:14 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1314 Damaging the image of Jews, that image at the moment being ridiculously clean in the eyes of most people... http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/13/surprise-at-americas-most-popular-religion/ ...is of vital importance, IMO. I see each and every exposure of racial/ethnic differences and incompatability to be one small step in the right direction. Damaging the image of Jews, that image at the moment being ridiculously clean in the eyes of most people…
http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/13/surprise-at-americas-most-popular-religion/

…is of vital importance, IMO.
I see each and every exposure of racial/ethnic differences and incompatability to be one small step in the right direction.

]]> By: Englander http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1313 Englander Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:31:56 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1313 Those Jews who are either part of the lobby or supporters of it overlap those Jews who work towards race replacement. It is in the interest of zionist Jews who want continued American support for Israel to make sure that Americans don't develop racial awareness, which would lead to white Americans looking out for their own interests and becoming more susceptible to the truth regarding the harmful effects of the Jewish lobby, and Jews in general. The Jewish question is like a thorn bush twisting around all branches of white preservation. I am happy to see any part of that hacked away. Any blow to organized Jewry could lead to a cumulative effect where awareness is raised for other issues which might be more important. Those Jews who are either part of the lobby or supporters of it overlap those Jews who work towards race replacement. It is in the interest of zionist Jews who want continued American support for Israel to make sure that Americans don’t develop racial awareness, which would lead to white Americans looking out for their own interests and becoming more susceptible to the truth regarding the harmful effects of the Jewish lobby, and Jews in general.

The Jewish question is like a thorn bush twisting around all branches of white preservation. I am happy to see any part of that hacked away. Any blow to organized Jewry could lead to a cumulative effect where awareness is raised for other issues which might be more important.

]]> By: Fred Scrooby http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1312 Fred Scrooby Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:56:44 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2006/09/30/challenging-the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby-what-should-be-done/#comment-1312 I'm not sure what those opposed to forced race-replacement immigration into the U.S. (and white countries generally) have to gain by going after, specifically, the nation of Israel the way this article outlines: Israel isn't among those forcing open borders on us. Jews certainly are, but Israel isn't. Israel's dealings with the Palestinians isn't my chief concern at present. If the author of the piece could outline a series of steps by which we could effectively counter the huge U.S. Jewish pro-race-replacement influence, that might be extremely helpful, but I don't see where either the bringing down of the state of Israel, as most of the Chomskyite left is in effect calling for, or its continued propping up by the U.S., is of primary concern to those opposed to open borders and the forced race-replacement of European-peopled countries. - No, we shouldn't be fighting Israel's wars for it; no, Israel isn't an appendage of the United States and should stop being treated like one: it's an independent country with its own interests different from the U.S.'s interests; yes, <i>obviously</i>, anyone holding dual citizenship should be barred from holding any public office whatsoever in this country whether high or low, whether elected or appointed, and should be barred from any position aiming at exerting influence on U.S. foreign policy unless he registers as an agent of a foreign government; and so on, and so forth -- the article makes lots of excellent points. I'll add an observation the article didn't include: money being fungible, there can be no question but that the vast pro-Israel lobbying apparatus in the U.S. from AIPAC on down is funded <i>out of the billions in yearly aid the U.S. gives Israel</i> -- so you have a situation where a foreign country's lobbying campaign devoted to influencing United States foreign policy in crucial ways is being paid for not by that foreign country but by the United States itself: the U.S. is paying the lobbying costs for a foreign lobbyist to lobby it. Furthermore, if the cost of lobbying rises (Senators and Congressmen demand bigger bribes and what not), the lobby will simply lobby for higher yearly payments to Israel to cover its own "costs of doing business," in effect pegging the cost of lobbying to the "cost of living," assuring it will always have enough money to effectively lobby. - But every single one of the points the author makes could be implemented tomorrow without changing anything, not one jot, in regard to forced race-replacement. - What is our primary concern: our own forced race-replacement or the Israel-Palestine conflict? - That the man who wrote the article is a leftist is seen from a few telltales such as his harping on the "anti-imperialism" theme, his suggestion that the many billions the U.S. gives yearly in aid to Israel should be spent on development projects in places like Africa, and one or two other hints. The man says nothing about my primary concern, forced race-replacement, and I suspect never will, because he very likely favors open borders and would call for the jailing of everyone here at <i>The Civic Platform</i> for "thinking hate thoughts." I’m not sure what those opposed to forced race-replacement immigration into the U.S. (and white countries generally) have to gain by going after, specifically, the nation of Israel the way this article outlines: Israel isn’t among those forcing open borders on us. Jews certainly are, but Israel isn’t. Israel’s dealings with the Palestinians isn’t my chief concern at present. If the author of the piece could outline a series of steps by which we could effectively counter the huge U.S. Jewish pro-race-replacement influence, that might be extremely helpful, but I don’t see where either the bringing down of the state of Israel, as most of the Chomskyite left is in effect calling for, or its continued propping up by the U.S., is of primary concern to those opposed to open borders and the forced race-replacement of European-peopled countries.

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No, we shouldn’t be fighting Israel’s wars for it; no, Israel isn’t an appendage of the United States and should stop being treated like one: it’s an independent country with its own interests different from the U.S.’s interests; yes, obviously, anyone holding dual citizenship should be barred from holding any public office whatsoever in this country whether high or low, whether elected or appointed, and should be barred from any position aiming at exerting influence on U.S. foreign policy unless he registers as an agent of a foreign government; and so on, and so forth — the article makes lots of excellent points. I’ll add an observation the article didn’t include: money being fungible, there can be no question but that the vast pro-Israel lobbying apparatus in the U.S. from AIPAC on down is funded out of the billions in yearly aid the U.S. gives Israel — so you have a situation where a foreign country’s lobbying campaign devoted to influencing United States foreign policy in crucial ways is being paid for not by that foreign country but by the United States itself: the U.S. is paying the lobbying costs for a foreign lobbyist to lobby it. Furthermore, if the cost of lobbying rises (Senators and Congressmen demand bigger bribes and what not), the lobby will simply lobby for higher yearly payments to Israel to cover its own “costs of doing business,” in effect pegging the cost of lobbying to the “cost of living,” assuring it will always have enough money to effectively lobby.

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But every single one of the points the author makes could be implemented tomorrow without changing anything, not one jot, in regard to forced race-replacement.

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What is our primary concern: our own forced race-replacement or the Israel-Palestine conflict?

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That the man who wrote the article is a leftist is seen from a few telltales such as his harping on the “anti-imperialism” theme, his suggestion that the many billions the U.S. gives yearly in aid to Israel should be spent on development projects in places like Africa, and one or two other hints. The man says nothing about my primary concern, forced race-replacement, and I suspect never will, because he very likely favors open borders and would call for the jailing of everyone here at The Civic Platform for “thinking hate thoughts.”

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