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	<title>Comments on: Strasser and National Bolshevism [2]</title>
	<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/</link>
	<description>The Civic Platform has been launched to discuss and debate issues related to the West viewed as a cultural compound of Greco-Roman, Christian, and Germanic past. We firmly believe that race informs culture and is a necessary precondition for cultural identity and integrity. Hence, this political vehicle is dedicated to the preservation of the ethnic genetic interests (EGI) of people of European ancestry. Furthermore, since the West faces a demographic crisis of unprecedented proportions (for example, in 1950 Whites represented 30 percent of the world's population. This number will plummet to 8 percent by 2050), we hold that the current trends threatening the racial, historical, and cultural identities of people of European ancestry must be stopped and reversed, if the West is to survive and endure as a distinct racial, historical, and cultural entity.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-27451</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 05:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-27451</guid>
		<description>I think that Hermann Rauschning's "memoirs" have been comprehensively exposed, not only by revisionist critics in the USA, but also by German, Austrian, and Swiss scholars. Here is the essential reference:
 
Wolfgang Hänel, Hermann Rauschnings "Gespräche mit Hitler" - Eine Geschichtsfälschung (= Veröffentlichung der Zeitgeschichtliche Forschungsstelle Ingolstadt, Bd. 7), Ingolstadt 1984</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Hermann Rauschning&#8217;s &#8220;memoirs&#8221; have been comprehensively exposed, not only by revisionist critics in the USA, but also by German, Austrian, and Swiss scholars. Here is the essential reference:</p>
<p>Wolfgang Hänel, Hermann Rauschnings &#8220;Gespräche mit Hitler&#8221; - Eine Geschichtsfälschung (= Veröffentlichung der Zeitgeschichtliche Forschungsstelle Ingolstadt, Bd. 7), Ingolstadt 1984</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-21951</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-21951</guid>
		<description>Dutchman in his post refers to the national socialist policy leading to "racial extermination".  If you mean the alleged genocide of the Jews then this is discredited, outdated atrocity propaganda.  The main murder weapon was supposed to be "gas chambers" but the mass gassing procedures described in holocaust literature and movies are chemically and scientifically impossible.  See the following articles -
www.cwporter.com/c1.htm
www.nazigassings.com/dieselgaschambera.html
www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p391_Luftl.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dutchman in his post refers to the national socialist policy leading to &#8220;racial extermination&#8221;.  If you mean the alleged genocide of the Jews then this is discredited, outdated atrocity propaganda.  The main murder weapon was supposed to be &#8220;gas chambers&#8221; but the mass gassing procedures described in holocaust literature and movies are chemically and scientifically impossible.  See the following articles -<br />
<a href="http://www.cwporter.com/c1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cwporter.com/c1.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.nazigassings.com/dieselgaschambera.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nazigassings.com/dieselgaschambera.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p391_Luftl.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p391_Luftl.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-20234</link>
		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-20234</guid>
		<description>Is that true? sorry i've found this discussion by looking for evidence of Otto Strasser's committment to the anti-semitic parts of nazism. And i've nothing like the detailed knowledge of the rest of you. But did Otto not form a political alliance in exile with a Helmet Hirsch, who was a jew involved in the plot against Hitler?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that true? sorry i&#8217;ve found this discussion by looking for evidence of Otto Strasser&#8217;s committment to the anti-semitic parts of nazism. And i&#8217;ve nothing like the detailed knowledge of the rest of you. But did Otto not form a political alliance in exile with a Helmet Hirsch, who was a jew involved in the plot against Hitler?</p>
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		<title>By: Friedrich Braun</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-19771</link>
		<dc:creator>Friedrich Braun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-19771</guid>
		<description>About 6 years ago a Canadian daily newspaper pubished an interview with a female RCMP officer who kept him under surveillance during W.W. II. She's on the record as saying that he was extremely cultured, and excellent cook, and virulently anti-Semitic. Otto Strasser was a member of NSDAP until 1930, it's safe to say that all members shared the Party's anti-Semitic stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 6 years ago a Canadian daily newspaper pubished an interview with a female RCMP officer who kept him under surveillance during W.W. II. She&#8217;s on the record as saying that he was extremely cultured, and excellent cook, and virulently anti-Semitic. Otto Strasser was a member of NSDAP until 1930, it&#8217;s safe to say that all members shared the Party&#8217;s anti-Semitic stand.</p>
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		<title>By: peter dodge</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-19770</link>
		<dc:creator>peter dodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 04:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-19770</guid>
		<description>Otto strasser lived down the road from me when he was banished to a rural area of Canada during his Canadian exile nightmare. I cannot find anything actually written by Otto Strasser that is anti semetic.  Can anyone cite me a source on that actually written by Otto?

During his stay in Canada Otto was often referred to as the Ex nazi, or the Nazi, and government reports made him out to have struggled with Hitler for control of the NS Party. he was often portrayed as anti democratic.

peter Dodge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otto strasser lived down the road from me when he was banished to a rural area of Canada during his Canadian exile nightmare. I cannot find anything actually written by Otto Strasser that is anti semetic.  Can anyone cite me a source on that actually written by Otto?</p>
<p>During his stay in Canada Otto was often referred to as the Ex nazi, or the Nazi, and government reports made him out to have struggled with Hitler for control of the NS Party. he was often portrayed as anti democratic.</p>
<p>peter Dodge</p>
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		<title>By: Der Vermittler</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18522</link>
		<dc:creator>Der Vermittler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18522</guid>
		<description>Friedrich, indeed, and he's recognized as a prime theoretician on Third Postitionist (especially nasbol) ideology. As for Dutchman, “Spengler + Möller van den Bruck + Jünger = National Bolashevism” LOL, okay, I'll stop trying now. Last comment: It would be better to start calling yourself "someone who believes in these three" rather than a nasbol. These three are not the founders of the nasbol ideology, anymore than Frederick William I was a founder of national-socialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friedrich, indeed, and he&#8217;s recognized as a prime theoretician on Third Postitionist (especially nasbol) ideology. As for Dutchman, “Spengler + Möller van den Bruck + Jünger = National Bolashevism” LOL, okay, I&#8217;ll stop trying now. Last comment: It would be better to start calling yourself &#8220;someone who believes in these three&#8221; rather than a nasbol. These three are not the founders of the nasbol ideology, anymore than Frederick William I was a founder of national-socialism.</p>
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		<title>By: Friedrich Braun</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18504</link>
		<dc:creator>Friedrich Braun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18504</guid>
		<description>Christian Bouchet is also a racialist, well on the right of Le Pen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian Bouchet is also a racialist, well on the right of Le Pen.</p>
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		<title>By: Dutchman</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18502</link>
		<dc:creator>Dutchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18502</guid>
		<description>Sory for having never heard of Christian Bouchet but I guess that comes from my whole approch to National Bolshevism through Spengler.  Having read and agreed with just about everything Spengler wrote, I then began reading various commentaries on him, including both Farrenkopf and Klemens von Klemperer.  This last formulates things something like this: "Spengler + Möller van den Bruck + Jünger = National Bolashevism"  Finding all three of these thinkers acceptable, I do not hesitate to call myself a National Bolshevik.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sory for having never heard of Christian Bouchet but I guess that comes from my whole approch to National Bolshevism through Spengler.  Having read and agreed with just about everything Spengler wrote, I then began reading various commentaries on him, including both Farrenkopf and Klemens von Klemperer.  This last formulates things something like this: &#8220;Spengler + Möller van den Bruck + Jünger = National Bolashevism&#8221;  Finding all three of these thinkers acceptable, I do not hesitate to call myself a National Bolshevik.</p>
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		<title>By: Der Vermittler</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18492</link>
		<dc:creator>Der Vermittler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18492</guid>
		<description>None, I'm talking about Christian Bouchet, but obviously he's not famous enough for you to be called a nasbol rather than ridiculed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None, I&#8217;m talking about Christian Bouchet, but obviously he&#8217;s not famous enough for you to be called a nasbol rather than ridiculed?</p>
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		<title>By: Dutchman</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18225</link>
		<dc:creator>Dutchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18225</guid>
		<description>Which Bouchet do you mean?
•  Barbara Bouchet - American actresse.
• Christophe Bouchet - French painter
• Edward Bouchet - American physcist most notable for having been the first African American to earn a Ph.D. from an American university.
• André du Bouchet - 20th centuary French poet.
• Louis Bouchet - French settler in the Los Angeles area who with Jean-Louis Vignes planted one of the first vineyards in the area
• Christophe Bouchut - French race car driver whose name is sometimes spelled Christophe Bouchet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which Bouchet do you mean?<br />
•  Barbara Bouchet - American actresse.<br />
• Christophe Bouchet - French painter<br />
• Edward Bouchet - American physcist most notable for having been the first African American to earn a Ph.D. from an American university.<br />
• André du Bouchet - 20th centuary French poet.<br />
• Louis Bouchet - French settler in the Los Angeles area who with Jean-Louis Vignes planted one of the first vineyards in the area<br />
• Christophe Bouchut - French race car driver whose name is sometimes spelled Christophe Bouchet</p>
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		<title>By: Der Vermittler</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18176</link>
		<dc:creator>Der Vermittler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18176</guid>
		<description>*Your bias IS following a 'diluted' national form of socialism. You would be better off with an international socialism.
*As for Spengler, I will not continue discussing him for he is not a Nasbol. I will not allow you to use him in this fashion. Get your own ideologists.
*You claim Spenglern, Jünger et al are nasbols before the principle was invented. National-revolutionaries, national-socialists... all of them use these men for ideological purposes. But you are the first I've ever met who blatantly swallows them to make your ideology look more interesting. Spengler was never too explicit about his ideological opinion, so I wonder what you attribute to him. As for Jünger, he wanted to allow Communism without the Internationalism. And therefore he is a nasbol?  Shucks, Goebbels said so too, you guys are using him as well? It appears the only resemblance between all these men is that they were nationalists who opposed the national-socialists to at least some degree for it not being socialist enough. That still leaves huge gaps of difference between them. Not much of an ideological basis if you ask me. How about Bouchet? Or Limonov? Those are the real nasbols.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Your bias IS following a &#8216;diluted&#8217; national form of socialism. You would be better off with an international socialism.<br />
*As for Spengler, I will not continue discussing him for he is not a Nasbol. I will not allow you to use him in this fashion. Get your own ideologists.<br />
*You claim Spenglern, Jünger et al are nasbols before the principle was invented. National-revolutionaries, national-socialists&#8230; all of them use these men for ideological purposes. But you are the first I&#8217;ve ever met who blatantly swallows them to make your ideology look more interesting. Spengler was never too explicit about his ideological opinion, so I wonder what you attribute to him. As for Jünger, he wanted to allow Communism without the Internationalism. And therefore he is a nasbol?  Shucks, Goebbels said so too, you guys are using him as well? It appears the only resemblance between all these men is that they were nationalists who opposed the national-socialists to at least some degree for it not being socialist enough. That still leaves huge gaps of difference between them. Not much of an ideological basis if you ask me. How about Bouchet? Or Limonov? Those are the real nasbols.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Scrooby</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18161</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Scrooby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18161</guid>
		<description>Notice Dutchracereplacer didn't answer any of my questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice Dutchracereplacer didn&#8217;t answer any of my questions.</p>
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		<title>By: WLindsayWheeler</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18158</link>
		<dc:creator>WLindsayWheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18158</guid>
		<description>Chialistic means the same as millenarianism, the belief in a coming Utopian age, this "1000" year reign. Also the "Age of Aquarius". Millenarianism is from the Latin, Chialistic is from the Greek, Xila, meaning 'thousand'.  The Nazi's sought to create a "New Man", that is progressive. Yea, they mixed some conservative, family values stuff, but it was all about winning the masses. To destroy the Old Order, which National socialism seeks to do like all other types of socialism, is nihilistic.  Hitler didn't care one bit for the aristocracy or the German royalty. That is progressive, and nihilistic. He was a leveller, the identitarian politics of making everything the same.
Yes, that is what "idealism" wroughts--nothing but death and destruction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chialistic means the same as millenarianism, the belief in a coming Utopian age, this &#8220;1000&#8243; year reign. Also the &#8220;Age of Aquarius&#8221;. Millenarianism is from the Latin, Chialistic is from the Greek, Xila, meaning &#8216;thousand&#8217;.  The Nazi&#8217;s sought to create a &#8220;New Man&#8221;, that is progressive. Yea, they mixed some conservative, family values stuff, but it was all about winning the masses. To destroy the Old Order, which National socialism seeks to do like all other types of socialism, is nihilistic.  Hitler didn&#8217;t care one bit for the aristocracy or the German royalty. That is progressive, and nihilistic. He was a leveller, the identitarian politics of making everything the same.<br />
Yes, that is what &#8220;idealism&#8221; wroughts&#8211;nothing but death and destruction.</p>
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		<title>By: Dutchman</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18157</link>
		<dc:creator>Dutchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18157</guid>
		<description>LOL</description>
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		<title>By: Fred Scrooby</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18136</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Scrooby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18136</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;"You are withdrawing your apology from me?"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Damn straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;You are withdrawing your apology from me?&#8221;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Damn straight.</p>
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		<title>By: Dutchman</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18129</link>
		<dc:creator>Dutchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18129</guid>
		<description>Mr. Scrooby:

You are withdrawing your apology from me?  

That's just pathetic.

Yours For A Better World — Dutch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Scrooby:</p>
<p>You are withdrawing your apology from me?  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s just pathetic.</p>
<p>Yours For A Better World — Dutch</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Scrooby</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18104</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Scrooby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18104</guid>
		<description>4) Is the Dutchman familiar with Horst Mahler's current political positions (as of the end of the '90s) and if so, what is his opinion of them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4) Is the Dutchman familiar with Horst Mahler&#8217;s current political positions (as of the end of the &#8217;90s) and if so, what is his opinion of them?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Scrooby</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18103</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Scrooby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18103</guid>
		<description>If you do not understand the significance of race -- &lt;i&gt;race&lt;/i&gt;, not &lt;i&gt;culture&lt;/i&gt; -- you are in today's political world a non-entity, a zero, and are of no good, no use, whatsoever to anything relating to the present crisis but can only cause harm.  Either get your understandings straight or keep out of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do not understand the significance of race &#8212; <i>race</i>, not <i>culture</i> &#8212; you are in today&#8217;s political world a non-entity, a zero, and are of no good, no use, whatsoever to anything relating to the present crisis but can only cause harm.  Either get your understandings straight or keep out of it!</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Scrooby</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18102</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Scrooby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18102</guid>
		<description>If the final paragraph of the comment above by the Dutchman is not withdrawn or modified I shall have to withdraw the apology I made in regard to my strong earlier reactions against his opinions and re-assert them in their entirety.  I'm not concerned with the fact that he's married to a non-white.  That doesn't concern me in the least and by itself means nothing.  What I want to know is:  1) in his view, is there a crisis of forced race-replacement, not just forced culture-replacement?; 2) does he oppose forced race-replacement, by governments, of the traditional Euro races around the Eurosphere?; 3) what is his view of the statement recently made by Constantin von Hoffmeister that "races make nations, not the other way around as some misguided individuals may think"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the final paragraph of the comment above by the Dutchman is not withdrawn or modified I shall have to withdraw the apology I made in regard to my strong earlier reactions against his opinions and re-assert them in their entirety.  I&#8217;m not concerned with the fact that he&#8217;s married to a non-white.  That doesn&#8217;t concern me in the least and by itself means nothing.  What I want to know is:  1) in his view, is there a crisis of forced race-replacement, not just forced culture-replacement?; 2) does he oppose forced race-replacement, by governments, of the traditional Euro races around the Eurosphere?; 3) what is his view of the statement recently made by Constantin von Hoffmeister that &#8220;races make nations, not the other way around as some misguided individuals may think&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Dutchman</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/08/29/strasser-and-national-bolshevism-2/#comment-18093</link>
		<dc:creator>Dutchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As my previous comments have attracted a good deal of response, much of it specious, I would like to address many of the charges made against me.

•  Der Vermittler accuses me of being “biased.”  Yes, indeed I am.  I will state without reservation that I am a National Bolshevik and that I stand for undiluted socialist principles.  It would probably be best if we put aside bourgeois notions of “objectivity” and simply stated our biases openly.

•  Several of my critics have stated that Oswald Spengler was a racist.  Specifically, Der Vermittler says that “Der Mensch und die Technik” was a racist book, while Friedrich Braun has made the same claim for “Hour of Decision.”  I have earlier provided a quote by Spengler (for the record, from Decline of the West, II : p. 129) denouncing the very concept of race.  Can my auditors provide documented statements by Spengler that contradict this?

•  Der Vermittler has made the statement that “Spengler is not a nasbol (national-bolshevist).”  This is much like saying “Marx was not a Leninist,” in the sense that Leninism is derived from, and acknowledges its origins in, the thought of Marx.  Spengler, Radek, Möller van den Bruck, and Jünger are the intellectual progenitors of National Bolshevism, and not Hiterlism, despite whoever may have feigned to embrace their thought.

•  Alex Zeka states that “Marx’s leftism is against (his desiderata for the workingman).”  So what?  It is axiomatic that “Leftism” is that political position favoring the working classes.  What an actual “leftist” program might be is as debatable as what genuine Christianity might look like, yet this does not discredit the earnest sincerity of the myriad o

•  WLindsayWheeler says that “Socialism first and foremost is (a) idealistic, (b) democratic, (c) progressive, (d) chialistic, (e) revolutionary and (f) for the lower classes, i.e. leveller,” and I have three questions for him.
–  Wherever did he get that definition?
–  What on earth does “chialistic” mean?  I have tried two dictionaries and an “on line” search with no success.
–  What does he mean by “lower classes?”  Classes are defined, not by their relation to each other relatively, but by their relationship to the means of production.  By “lower classes” does he mean proletarian or lumpen?

• Fred Scrooby believes that National Bolsheviks “need to get rid of the word Bolshevism in their name,” and he might have a point.  Since we are both nationalist and socialist, the name “National Socialist” would seem both more descriptive and more accurate — except that the name “National Socialism” has been forever poisoned by Hitler's appropriation of that name for his program of imperialism and racial extermination.

• WLindsayWheeler has put forth Hitler’s idea that “(National Socialism is) the fulfillment of Marxist doctrine stripped of its Talmudic teaching.”   Could Mr. Wheeler give one example of Talmudic teaching” in Marx?  I think not.

•  He also claims that “Nazism is ideological, it is progressive,” when frankly it is not.  The actions of the Hitler Regime in no way correspond to any of the socialism or even nationalism put forth in their early propaganda.  National Socialism, as it played out, was simply Hitlerism: a program of imperialism and race hatred with no actual developed ideology.

•  Friedrich Braun has accused me of fostering a “litany of lies and half-truths” because I mention that Dietrich Orlow denies the existence of any actual copy of the Strasser resignation letter.  I would invite Mr. Braun to check my facts first!  Dietrich Orlow does indeed make this statement on page 292 of his “History of the Nazi Party: 1919 - 1933,” University of Pittsburgh Press, Pittsburgh, PA, 1969 in footnote #230.  Please not that I WAS CITING MR. ORLOW!  This is what scholarship is all about, listing your sources!  Mr. Braun goes on to say that “Stachura reproduces Gregor Strasser’s letter of resignation in full” when in fact Mr. Stachura does nothing of the kind.  He dies not provide a photo nor photostat of the supposed letter, nor even the supposed original German text, but instead gives us an English translation of what the letter is supposed to have said.  If Mr. Braun had bothered to go to the citation that Mr. Stachura provides (footnote 57 on page 156) he would find the following: “The letter is printed in Schultz, “Rettungen,” pp. 9-11.  Kissenkoetter, “Gregor Strasser,” pp. 177 ff., doubts whether this is the full, original version, but does not clearly explain his reasons.”  So you see — Stachura himself is forced to admit that this might not be the actual text of Strasser’s letter.  Next time, Mr. Braun, try reading the footnotes.

•  Braun then accuses me of aiming a “flood of ad hominems aimed at Stachura, alleging ideological bias,” adding that I “offer not a shred of evidence to back up his (irrelevant) claims.”  In response to this, let me point out that Stachura is so steeped in this bourgeois/liberal viewpoint that he is able to call the socialism of Gregor Strasser “hollow” because Strasser was anti-feminist (“Gregor Strasser and the Rise of Nazism,” p. 60.), as though opening the path of careerism to bourgeois women was of any use to the proletariat!  He calls feminism a “progressive movement,” never questioning its worth or importance for the working classes, never addressing its relevance as “leftist.” Despite the fact that Strasser declares time and again that he “stands for undiluted socialist principles” or that he was the man that made the famous “Bread and Work” speech before the Reichstag, Stachura has the gall to question his leftism.  If this is not bias, I don’t know what is.

•  Mr. Braun goes on to call me “bonkers”  for accusing  “Stachura of harbouring a pro-Hitler bias.”  I accused Stachura of being a bourgeois liberal.  If Mr. Braun thinks that Hitler was a bourgeois liberal then I think we all know who is bonkers.

•  Mr. Braun asserts that “Otto Strasser is not a reliable source on anything,”  and perhaps that is right.  But when did I cite Otto Strasser as an authority on anything?  Did I repeat his claims that Hitler was a coprophiliac?  Or his accusation that Hitler shot his niece Geli when she caught him flagrante delicto with Emil Maurice?  No — I simply mentioned that no account of the National Bolshevik tendency in Germany would be complete without mentioning his contribution to it.  I never repeated Otto’s revelation to the OSS that Hitler only had one ball — even though the Soviet autopsy confirmed this!

•  Braun give the advice that “Those who care about the truth can read “Gregor Strasser and the Rise of Nazism.”  I would say that, while this book is scholarly, it also has a bourgeois liberal bias.  A much better account would be Robert Henry Frank’s superlative “Hitler and the National Socialist Coalition,1924 - 1932” (Doctoral Dissertation - Johns Hopkins University, 1969, available from University Microfilms International, Ann Arbor, Michigan).  Not only does this lack the PC bias of Stachura, but it features much more original research, based as it is upon actual interviews with Otto Strasser, Walter Stennis, and others.

•  Hot Flash:  according to Friedrich Braun “Dutchman is lying again!”  This time I refused to acknowledge that “Hour of Decision” “is indeed a racist book where the author postulates a future racial war between the coloured races and the White race.”  Let me point out that predicting a war between races does not make one a racist, any more than predicting a Yankee victory in the World Series makes one a Yankee fan.  He then goes on to say “nowhere in the said work does he attack National Socialism.”  This is completely disingenuous.  Spengler never once mentioned either Hitler or National Socialism in the book as an intended slight!  Farrenkopf,  in his “Prophet of Decline: Spengler on world history and politics” (Louisiana State University Press, Baton Rouge, 2001), states “Although mindful of the danger of censorship, the aspiring praeceptor Germaniae advances in this work a politically courageous criticism of the Nazi leadership.  Indeed, “Hour of Decision” is one of the few regime-critical and the most sensational to appear during the Third Reich.  Spengler criticizes the racial ideology of the Nazi party and its anti-Semitism ... adding insult to injury, in a daring affront to the Führer and his cronies, Spengler characterizes Germany as ‘a nation without leaders or weapons.’”

•  “Spengler voted National Socialist and exhibited the Swastika flag in front of his home.”  Yes — and when asked about it he responded “Hitler is an idiot, but one must support the movement.”  (Farrenkopf, “Prophet of Decline: Spengler on world history and politics,” p. 236.)  By this Spengler meant that while he supported both socialism and nationalism, he thought that Hitler represented neither — a judgement that proved to be quite prescient.

•  “ To now turn him (Spengler) into an anti-N.S., National Bolshevist intellectual is simply false.”  It’s not just me that thinks this.  Try Klemens von Klemperer’s “Germany's new conservatism; its history and dilemma in the twentieth century” (Princeton University Press, Princeton, 1957).  Of course, if a whole book is too much to take in, you could try Klemperer’s seminal article on the subject “Towards a Fourth Reich?  The History of National Bolshevism in Germany” published in Review of Politics XIII, April 1951, pp. 191-210.

•  Mr. Braun then accuses National Bolsheviks of a “complete dismissal of race or the immigration crisis makes them inconsequential to the 21st Century and the big questions facing the West and the White man,” and I think this sums up the difference between a bigoted position of race hatred and a well considered cultural position.  I, as a National Bolshevik, harbor no brief against other races (I am in fact married to a non-white), but this has no bearing on the fact that I consider Western Culture to surpass all others.  As people are the vessels of culture, I am deeply troubled by the demographic crisis of the West, of the flood of non-Western immigrants that are turning places like Spain and Italy into Moslem nations, of the “multi-culturalism” that is causing our own youth to abandon their own culture.  But that does not mean that I will abandon the Christian understanding that we are all God’s children and succumb to vulgar racism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As my previous comments have attracted a good deal of response, much of it specious, I would like to address many of the charges made against me.</p>
<p>•  Der Vermittler accuses me of being “biased.”  Yes, indeed I am.  I will state without reservation that I am a National Bolshevik and that I stand for undiluted socialist principles.  It would probably be best if we put aside bourgeois notions of “objectivity” and simply stated our biases openly.</p>
<p>•  Several of my critics have stated that Oswald Spengler was a racist.  Specifically, Der Vermittler says that “Der Mensch und die Technik” was a racist book, while Friedrich Braun has made the same claim for “Hour of Decision.”  I have earlier provided a quote by Spengler (for the record, from Decline of the West, II : p. 129) denouncing the very concept of race.  Can my auditors provide documented statements by Spengler that contradict this?</p>
<p>•  Der Vermittler has made the statement that “Spengler is not a nasbol (national-bolshevist).”  This is much like saying “Marx was not a Leninist,” in the sense that Leninism is derived from, and acknowledges its origins in, the thought of Marx.  Spengler, Radek, Möller van den Bruck, and Jünger are the intellectual progenitors of National Bolshevism, and not Hiterlism, despite whoever may have feigned to embrace their thought.</p>
<p>•  Alex Zeka states that “Marx’s leftism is against (his desiderata for the workingman).”  So what?  It is axiomatic that “Leftism” is that political position favoring the working classes.  What an actual “leftist” program might be is as debatable as what genuine Christianity might look like, yet this does not discredit the earnest sincerity of the myriad o</p>
<p>•  WLindsayWheeler says that “Socialism first and foremost is (a) idealistic, (b) democratic, (c) progressive, (d) chialistic, (e) revolutionary and (f) for the lower classes, i.e. leveller,” and I have three questions for him.<br />
–  Wherever did he get that definition?<br />
–  What on earth does “chialistic” mean?  I have tried two dictionaries and an “on line” search with no success.<br />
–  What does he mean by “lower classes?”  Classes are defined, not by their relation to each other relatively, but by their relationship to the means of production.  By “lower classes” does he mean proletarian or lumpen?</p>
<p>• Fred Scrooby believes that National Bolsheviks “need to get rid of the word Bolshevism in their name,” and he might have a point.  Since we are both nationalist and socialist, the name “National Socialist” would seem both more descriptive and more accurate — except that the name “National Socialism” has been forever poisoned by Hitler&#8217;s appropriation of that name for his program of imperialism and racial extermination.</p>
<p>• WLindsayWheeler has put forth Hitler’s idea that “(National Socialism is) the fulfillment of Marxist doctrine stripped of its Talmudic teaching.”   Could Mr. Wheeler give one example of Talmudic teaching” in Marx?  I think not.</p>
<p>•  He also claims that “Nazism is ideological, it is progressive,” when frankly it is not.  The actions of the Hitler Regime in no way correspond to any of the socialism or even nationalism put forth in their early propaganda.  National Socialism, as it played out, was simply Hitlerism: a program of imperialism and race hatred with no actual developed ideology.</p>
<p>•  Friedrich Braun has accused me of fostering a “litany of lies and half-truths” because I mention that Dietrich Orlow denies the existence of any actual copy of the Strasser resignation letter.  I would invite Mr. Braun to check my facts first!  Dietrich Orlow does indeed make this statement on page 292 of his “History of the Nazi Party: 1919 - 1933,” University of Pittsburgh Press, Pittsburgh, PA, 1969 in footnote #230.  Please not that I WAS CITING MR. ORLOW!  This is what scholarship is all about, listing your sources!  Mr. Braun goes on to say that “Stachura reproduces Gregor Strasser’s letter of resignation in full” when in fact Mr. Stachura does nothing of the kind.  He dies not provide a photo nor photostat of the supposed letter, nor even the supposed original German text, but instead gives us an English translation of what the letter is supposed to have said.  If Mr. Braun had bothered to go to the citation that Mr. Stachura provides (footnote 57 on page 156) he would find the following: “The letter is printed in Schultz, “Rettungen,” pp. 9-11.  Kissenkoetter, “Gregor Strasser,” pp. 177 ff., doubts whether this is the full, original version, but does not clearly explain his reasons.”  So you see — Stachura himself is forced to admit that this might not be the actual text of Strasser’s letter.  Next time, Mr. Braun, try reading the footnotes.</p>
<p>•  Braun then accuses me of aiming a “flood of ad hominems aimed at Stachura, alleging ideological bias,” adding that I “offer not a shred of evidence to back up his (irrelevant) claims.”  In response to this, let me point out that Stachura is so steeped in this bourgeois/liberal viewpoint that he is able to call the socialism of Gregor Strasser “hollow” because Strasser was anti-feminist (“Gregor Strasser and the Rise of Nazism,” p. 60.), as though opening the path of careerism to bourgeois women was of any use to the proletariat!  He calls feminism a “progressive movement,” never questioning its worth or importance for the working classes, never addressing its relevance as “leftist.” Despite the fact that Strasser declares time and again that he “stands for undiluted socialist principles” or that he was the man that made the famous “Bread and Work” speech before the Reichstag, Stachura has the gall to question his leftism.  If this is not bias, I don’t know what is.</p>
<p>•  Mr. Braun goes on to call me “bonkers”  for accusing  “Stachura of harbouring a pro-Hitler bias.”  I accused Stachura of being a bourgeois liberal.  If Mr. Braun thinks that Hitler was a bourgeois liberal then I think we all know who is bonkers.</p>
<p>•  Mr. Braun asserts that “Otto Strasser is not a reliable source on anything,”  and perhaps that is right.  But when did I cite Otto Strasser as an authority on anything?  Did I repeat his claims that Hitler was a coprophiliac?  Or his accusation that Hitler shot his niece Geli when she caught him flagrante delicto with Emil Maurice?  No — I simply mentioned that no account of the National Bolshevik tendency in Germany would be complete without mentioning his contribution to it.  I never repeated Otto’s revelation to the OSS that Hitler only had one ball — even though the Soviet autopsy confirmed this!</p>
<p>•  Braun give the advice that “Those who care about the truth can read “Gregor Strasser and the Rise of Nazism.”  I would say that, while this book is scholarly, it also has a bourgeois liberal bias.  A much better account would be Robert Henry Frank’s superlative “Hitler and the National Socialist Coalition,1924 - 1932” (Doctoral Dissertation - Johns Hopkins University, 1969, available from University Microfilms International, Ann Arbor, Michigan).  Not only does this lack the PC bias of Stachura, but it features much more original research, based as it is upon actual interviews with Otto Strasser, Walter Stennis, and others.</p>
<p>•  Hot Flash:  according to Friedrich Braun “Dutchman is lying again!”  This time I refused to acknowledge that “Hour of Decision” “is indeed a racist book where the author postulates a future racial war between the coloured races and the White race.”  Let me point out that predicting a war between races does not make one a racist, any more than predicting a Yankee victory in the World Series makes one a Yankee fan.  He then goes on to say “nowhere in the said work does he attack National Socialism.”  This is completely disingenuous.  Spengler never once mentioned either Hitler or National Socialism in the book as an intended slight!  Farrenkopf,  in his “Prophet of Decline: Spengler on world history and politics” (Louisiana State University Press, Baton Rouge, 2001), states “Although mindful of the danger of censorship, the aspiring praeceptor Germaniae advances in this work a politically courageous criticism of the Nazi leadership.  Indeed, “Hour of Decision” is one of the few regime-critical and the most sensational to appear during the Third Reich.  Spengler criticizes the racial ideology of the Nazi party and its anti-Semitism &#8230; adding insult to injury, in a daring affront to the Führer and his cronies, Spengler characterizes Germany as ‘a nation without leaders or weapons.’”</p>
<p>•  “Spengler voted National Socialist and exhibited the Swastika flag in front of his home.”  Yes — and when asked about it he responded “Hitler is an idiot, but one must support the movement.”  (Farrenkopf, “Prophet of Decline: Spengler on world history and politics,” p. 236.)  By this Spengler meant that while he supported both socialism and nationalism, he thought that Hitler represented neither — a judgement that proved to be quite prescient.</p>
<p>•  “ To now turn him (Spengler) into an anti-N.S., National Bolshevist intellectual is simply false.”  It’s not just me that thinks this.  Try Klemens von Klemperer’s “Germany&#8217;s new conservatism; its history and dilemma in the twentieth century” (Princeton University Press, Princeton, 1957).  Of course, if a whole book is too much to take in, you could try Klemperer’s seminal article on the subject “Towards a Fourth Reich?  The History of National Bolshevism in Germany” published in Review of Politics XIII, April 1951, pp. 191-210.</p>
<p>•  Mr. Braun then accuses National Bolsheviks of a “complete dismissal of race or the immigration crisis makes them inconsequential to the 21st Century and the big questions facing the West and the White man,” and I think this sums up the difference between a bigoted position of race hatred and a well considered cultural position.  I, as a National Bolshevik, harbor no brief against other races (I am in fact married to a non-white), but this has no bearing on the fact that I consider Western Culture to surpass all others.  As people are the vessels of culture, I am deeply troubled by the demographic crisis of the West, of the flood of non-Western immigrants that are turning places like Spain and Italy into Moslem nations, of the “multi-culturalism” that is causing our own youth to abandon their own culture.  But that does not mean that I will abandon the Christian understanding that we are all God’s children and succumb to vulgar racism.</p>
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