Comments on: Evola on Christianity in Europe http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/ The Civic Platform has been launched to discuss and debate issues related to the West viewed as a cultural compound of Greco-Roman, Christian, and Germanic past. We firmly believe that race informs culture and is a necessary precondition for cultural identity and integrity. Hence, this political vehicle is dedicated to the preservation of the ethnic genetic interests (EGI) of people of European ancestry. Furthermore, since the West faces a demographic crisis of unprecedented proportions (for example, in 1950 Whites represented 30 percent of the world's population. This number will plummet to 8 percent by 2050), we hold that the current trends threatening the racial, historical, and cultural identities of people of European ancestry must be stopped and reversed, if the West is to survive and endure as a distinct racial, historical, and cultural entity. Mon, 08 Sep 2008 02:56:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: suumcuique http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-24064 suumcuique Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:00:02 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-24064 Some may prefer the early Evola in this respect : "Christianity is at the root of the evil that has corrupted the West. This is the truth, and it does not admit uncertainty. (...) Christianity first infected the race of blonde Germanic barbarians, (...) The identification of our tradition with either the Christian or Catholic tradition is the most absurd of errors." (from 'Imperialismo pagano', Atanor, Todi-Roma 1928) Some may prefer the early Evola in this respect :

“Christianity is at the root of the evil that has corrupted the West.
This is the truth, and it does not admit uncertainty.

(…) Christianity first infected the race of blonde Germanic
barbarians, (…)

The identification of our tradition with either the Christian or
Catholic tradition is the most absurd of errors.”

(from ‘Imperialismo pagano’, Atanor, Todi-Roma 1928)

]]> By: Al Ross http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23867 Al Ross Fri, 04 Jan 2008 07:36:41 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23867 Although, like every truly intelligent Aryan, the author of this article was an atheist, he indulgently allows for the historical fiction of soul existence: http://www.revilo-oliver.com/rpo/aryanrel.htm Although, like every truly intelligent Aryan, the author of this article was an atheist, he indulgently allows for the historical fiction of soul existence:

http://www.revilo-oliver.com/rpo/aryanrel.htm

]]> By: WLindsayWheeler http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23821 WLindsayWheeler Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:29:37 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23821 Plato defines soul as "anything with self-movement". The Greeks saw that all living flesh was nothing more than dead material. We are made up of 70% water, carbon and nitrogen, right? It is all dead. Well, something has to animate the dead material and it isn't the dead material that is animating itself. Curious word that "animate", isn't? This is where we get the word "animal". Both of these words are derived from the Latin word meaning breath which has a secondary meaning of Soul! Anima is the Latin word for Soul. It is "that which animates". The Soul is incorpreal. All living things have souls, plants, animals, human beings, bacteria, fish, sponges, fungi, etc. If it is incorpreal, it is also deathless. It has no parts, can not be put to death. The Soul is immortal. It fills up the whole living thing. When the Soul departs the body, death comes to the body. The personality, the elan vital, the mind, are all located in the Soul. Plato defines soul as “anything with self-movement”. The Greeks saw that all living flesh was nothing more than dead material. We are made up of 70% water, carbon and nitrogen, right? It is all dead. Well, something has to animate the dead material and it isn’t the dead material that is animating itself.

Curious word that “animate”, isn’t? This is where we get the word “animal”. Both of these words are derived from the Latin word meaning breath which has a secondary meaning of Soul! Anima is the Latin word for Soul. It is “that which animates”. The Soul is incorpreal. All living things have souls, plants, animals, human beings, bacteria, fish, sponges, fungi, etc.

If it is incorpreal, it is also deathless. It has no parts, can not be put to death. The Soul is immortal. It fills up the whole living thing. When the Soul departs the body, death comes to the body. The personality, the elan vital, the mind, are all located in the Soul.

]]> By: Al Ross http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23774 Al Ross Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:23:30 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23774 And where,precisely, is the soul located? Near the liver, perhaps, or maybe in your big toe? And where,precisely, is the soul located? Near the liver, perhaps, or maybe in your big toe?

]]> By: WLindsayWheeler http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23773 WLindsayWheeler Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:17:33 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23773 Dear Ross, It was Plato that taught the existence of the soul; and he taught the immortality of the soul. Christianity absorbed the teachings of Plato. Dear Ross, It was Plato that taught the existence of the soul; and he taught the immortality of the soul. Christianity absorbed the teachings of Plato.

]]> By: Al Ross http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23731 Al Ross Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:26:14 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23731 I wonder what colour the sky is in the weird and wacky Wheelerworld. He believes in the amazing tales of the Jew-Book, wherein serpents dispense wisdom about the advisablity of apple consumption and even donkeys indulge in discourse with humans ("And the ass said to Balaam", Numbers 22:30). There is simply no proof of life beyond this one and we must treat Wheeler's preposterous beliefs in the manner we would were he to claim that his wife is beautiful and his children Mensa-material. Wheeler's Church is bound for the annihilation and nothingness to which we are all undoubtedly headed, even our sun, which is itself destined for collapse and extinction, signifying the end of the party. I wonder what colour the sky is in the weird and wacky Wheelerworld. He believes in the amazing tales of the Jew-Book, wherein serpents dispense wisdom about the advisablity of apple consumption and even donkeys indulge in discourse with humans (”And the ass said to Balaam”, Numbers 22:30).

There is simply no proof of life beyond this one and we must treat Wheeler’s preposterous beliefs in the manner we would were he to claim that his wife is beautiful and his children Mensa-material.

Wheeler’s Church is bound for the annihilation and nothingness to which we are all undoubtedly headed, even our sun, which is itself destined for collapse and extinction, signifying the end of the party.

]]> By: WLindsayWheeler http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23730 WLindsayWheeler Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:07:08 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23730 And what about all those Cathedrals, churches, architecture, classical music, paintings of the last 2000 years of Western Culture? Mythology? Handell's Messiah, one of the greatest works of Europe? Like an Atheist can create that? something so sublime and beautiful? All things of the New Order which National Socialism is a part of is all Nihilism. Nihilism always self destructs, time and time again. Mr. Braun, the Church will always be--national socialism will never live. Throne and Altar of Orthodox Russia, of Charlemagne, of the Byzantine Empire lasted over a 1000 years. Your national socialist experiment lasted allbeit 12 years. Russian communism lasted 80 years. All buried by the Church. The Church will live on Mr. Braun and it will bury you and your NS ideology. And what about all those Cathedrals, churches, architecture, classical music, paintings of the last 2000 years of Western Culture? Mythology? Handell’s Messiah, one of the greatest works of Europe? Like an Atheist can create that? something so sublime and beautiful?
All things of the New Order which National Socialism is a part of is all Nihilism. Nihilism always self destructs, time and time again.
Mr. Braun, the Church will always be–national socialism will never live. Throne and Altar of Orthodox Russia, of Charlemagne, of the Byzantine Empire lasted over a 1000 years. Your national socialist experiment lasted allbeit 12 years. Russian communism lasted 80 years. All buried by the Church. The Church will live on Mr. Braun and it will bury you and your NS ideology.

]]> By: Friedrich Braun http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23728 Friedrich Braun Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:32:55 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23728 No one cares about your Judeo-Christian mythology, Wheeler. No one cares about your Judeo-Christian mythology, Wheeler.

]]> By: WLindsayWheeler http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23713 WLindsayWheeler Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:27:06 +0000 http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/12/31/evola-on-christianity-in-europe/#comment-23713 Yes, this is good. I want to point out Jerry Dell Ehrlich's book, <i>Plato's Gift to Christianity</i>. St. Thomas was in 1260AD. The Renaissance happened 200 years later and it was the Renaissance that brought back much of the Graeco-Roman Civilization. This is what Martin Luther, the Protestant rejected. Roman Catholicism is very European, carrying the old social and cultural stratum of pagan Europe. What happened is that Hellenism was the background and intellectual foundation of the Christianity. With the collapse of Western Civilization in the Dark Ages, much was lost and forgotten. As Evola points out, Aquinas is a factor in re-energizing the <strike>Pagan</strike> European aspects of Christianity. Mr. Ehrlich demonstrates that even more. Christianity is a Greek religion. Not Jewish. On the other hand, Protestantism is heavily Judiazied. It is Protestantism that has a Jewish mentality--not Roman Catholicism. So to condemn outright that Christianity is Jewish and a harm to Europe--has to clarify. Hillaire Belloc said, "The Faith is Europe and Europe the Faith". There is a connection between Christianity and Europe. Finally, we see in the National Socialist movement in the German areas, wanted to do away with the basic foundation of Western and German law which was the Romans. Western Culture is an amalgamation of Hellenism, Romanitas, and Christianity. Yes, this is good. I want to point out Jerry Dell Ehrlich’s book, Plato’s Gift to Christianity. St. Thomas was in 1260AD. The Renaissance happened 200 years later and it was the Renaissance that brought back much of the Graeco-Roman Civilization. This is what Martin Luther, the Protestant rejected. Roman Catholicism is very European, carrying the old social and cultural stratum of pagan Europe.
What happened is that Hellenism was the background and intellectual foundation of the Christianity. With the collapse of Western Civilization in the Dark Ages, much was lost and forgotten. As Evola points out, Aquinas is a factor in re-energizing the Pagan European aspects of Christianity. Mr. Ehrlich demonstrates that even more. Christianity is a Greek religion. Not Jewish.
On the other hand, Protestantism is heavily Judiazied. It is Protestantism that has a Jewish mentality–not Roman Catholicism. So to condemn outright that Christianity is Jewish and a harm to Europe–has to clarify. Hillaire Belloc said, “The Faith is Europe and Europe the Faith”. There is a connection between Christianity and Europe.
Finally, we see in the National Socialist movement in the German areas, wanted to do away with the basic foundation of Western and German law which was the Romans. Western Culture is an amalgamation of Hellenism, Romanitas, and Christianity.

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