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	<title>Comments on: Paradise Lost: 1936 NS Color Film-Berlin in the Year of the Olympic Games</title>
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	<description>The Civic Platform has been launched to discuss and debate issues related to the West viewed as a cultural compound of Greco-Roman, Christian, and Germanic past. We firmly believe that race informs culture and is a necessary precondition for cultural identity and integrity. Hence, this political vehicle is dedicated to the preservation of the ethnic genetic interests (EGI) of people of European ancestry. Furthermore, since the West faces a demographic crisis of unprecedented proportions (for example, in 1950 Whites represented 30 percent of the world's population. This number will plummet to 8 percent by 2050), we hold that the current trends threatening the racial, historical, and cultural identities of people of European ancestry must be stopped and reversed, if the West is to survive and endure as a distinct racial, historical, and cultural entity.</description>
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		<title>By: Der Vermittler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Der Vermittler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 09:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fred:

That's a möchte gern mindset. Hardly anyone hangs in there, as I have stated, the German nationalist movement has already lost its German identity. Only in certain underground circles I still find people who live their sehnsucht and do not want to be associated with the jeans-wearing skinhead types. So as 123 says, a people that does not long liberation is about to be liberated (and that's still a big 'if' if you ask me)

In Italy, a succesful counterculture has been created. Neofascists (and there really isn't any other way to describe them) have won about 2,5% of the votes (La Destra) and when you count in pseudo-neofascists, they even have the mayor of Rome now! But politics aside, the Italians have social projects like Casa Pound etc. through which they create infrastructure, a world within a world. This is very appealing to youths, who gather by the hundreds in larger cities on a weekly basis. Although there's still alot improvement possible, this is the best way to go if you ask me. It's at least working out for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fred:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a möchte gern mindset. Hardly anyone hangs in there, as I have stated, the German nationalist movement has already lost its German identity. Only in certain underground circles I still find people who live their sehnsucht and do not want to be associated with the jeans-wearing skinhead types. So as 123 says, a people that does not long liberation is about to be liberated (and that&#8217;s still a big &#8216;if&#8217; if you ask me)</p>
<p>In Italy, a succesful counterculture has been created. Neofascists (and there really isn&#8217;t any other way to describe them) have won about 2,5% of the votes (La Destra) and when you count in pseudo-neofascists, they even have the mayor of Rome now! But politics aside, the Italians have social projects like Casa Pound etc. through which they create infrastructure, a world within a world. This is very appealing to youths, who gather by the hundreds in larger cities on a weekly basis. Although there&#8217;s still alot improvement possible, this is the best way to go if you ask me. It&#8217;s at least working out for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Friedrich Braun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friedrich Braun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A common perception today is that the Third Reich was undemocratic and that the BRD is democratic. This is false. While not being a parliamentarian democracy in the English sense, the Third Reich had a participatory democracy where regular plebiscites or referendums were held before important decisions were taken, or to validate a decision that was already taken. In my opinion the Third Reich was by far more democratic than today's BRD and even Great Britain with its "first past the post" system that in point of fact excludes minority voices from political participation. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A common perception today is that the Third Reich was undemocratic and that the BRD is democratic. This is false. While not being a parliamentarian democracy in the English sense, the Third Reich had a participatory democracy where regular plebiscites or referendums were held before important decisions were taken, or to validate a decision that was already taken. In my opinion the Third Reich was by far more democratic than today&#8217;s BRD and even Great Britain with its &#8220;first past the post&#8221; system that in point of fact excludes minority voices from political participation.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 02:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: 123

"Pre-45 people were slim, keen, and aware. Nowadays many are obese slobs, and most dim-witted like cows."

Ah democracy.  The best system of government in the history of the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: 123</p>
<p>&#8220;Pre-45 people were slim, keen, and aware. Nowadays many are obese slobs, and most dim-witted like cows.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah democracy.  The best system of government in the history of the world!</p>
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		<title>By: 123</title>
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		<dc:creator>123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 08:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The oppressor can’t last forever and when he bites the dust your chance at restored life will come!"

This is perfectly true and I for one am looking forward to this for quite some time already. Thanks to the self-destructive policies of Washington it is only a matter of when and not of if. However, there is a big BUT. There are few Germans nowadays, who willingly still want to be Germans. Most Germans nowadays are really anti-German (I know, it sounds crazy, but that's how it is) much like white Americans, who cheer Obama. The re-education was unfortunately exceedingly successful. Some even say, that the Germans pre-45 were (a) completely different (people) to those of today. Even the outer appearance has changed completely. Pre-45 people were slim, keen, and aware. Nowadays many are obese slobs, and most dim-witted like cows. 

So, yes the chance will come, but what we will make of it, that is the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The oppressor can’t last forever and when he bites the dust your chance at restored life will come!&#8221;</p>
<p>This is perfectly true and I for one am looking forward to this for quite some time already. Thanks to the self-destructive policies of Washington it is only a matter of when and not of if. However, there is a big BUT. There are few Germans nowadays, who willingly still want to be Germans. Most Germans nowadays are really anti-German (I know, it sounds crazy, but that&#8217;s how it is) much like white Americans, who cheer Obama. The re-education was unfortunately exceedingly successful. Some even say, that the Germans pre-45 were (a) completely different (people) to those of today. Even the outer appearance has changed completely. Pre-45 people were slim, keen, and aware. Nowadays many are obese slobs, and most dim-witted like cows. </p>
<p>So, yes the chance will come, but what we will make of it, that is the question.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Scrooby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Scrooby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;"What would help is a new centralised and well organised movement like they have in Italy."&lt;/i&gt;  ( -- Der Vermittler)&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Yes, but what would &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; help -- help both Jewrmany &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; Italy -- would be the collapse of the U.S.K., since the 'Kwa controls both places, more so Jewrmany of course, which it occupies with its mercenary army (now recruiting Sub-Saharan Africans into active duty by means of the promise of Kwamerikwan citizenship if they join, a Jewish neocon idea of course; who else would be &lt;i&gt;sick enough&lt;/i&gt; to think up such a morally perverted thing for this country?), setting the boundaries which the Jewrman politicians and judiciary dare not overstep, cutting off the windpipe even of any incipient genuine German national tendency let alone real movement, strangling any such in its cradle.  If the German people can hang on a while longer, keeping themselves racially intact, their language and traditions intact, and so on, till the power of the 'Kwa wanes further, they'll have a chance at healing themselves and having a true German nation back once again.  Hang in there, comrades!  The oppressor can't last forever and when he bites the dust your chance at restored life will come!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;What would help is a new centralised and well organised movement like they have in Italy.&#8221;</i>  ( &#8212; Der Vermittler)</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but what would <i>really</i> help &#8212; help both Jewrmany <i>and</i> Italy &#8212; would be the collapse of the U.S.K., since the &#8216;Kwa controls both places, more so Jewrmany of course, which it occupies with its mercenary army (now recruiting Sub-Saharan Africans into active duty by means of the promise of Kwamerikwan citizenship if they join, a Jewish neocon idea of course; who else would be <i>sick enough</i> to think up such a morally perverted thing for this country?), setting the boundaries which the Jewrman politicians and judiciary dare not overstep, cutting off the windpipe even of any incipient genuine German national tendency let alone real movement, strangling any such in its cradle.  If the German people can hang on a while longer, keeping themselves racially intact, their language and traditions intact, and so on, till the power of the &#8216;Kwa wanes further, they&#8217;ll have a chance at healing themselves and having a true German nation back once again.  Hang in there, comrades!  The oppressor can&#8217;t last forever and when he bites the dust your chance at restored life will come!</p>
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		<title>By: Der Vermittler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Der Vermittler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 23:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm familiar with the German movement and can tell you there's all sorts of people. The biggest problem with actual National-Socialism is that those who are, and tell so (hopefully within closed circles), are usually the least admirable Germans. They're the hooligans etc. that don't read books and usually just drink and listen to Rechtsrock. Then you have those who are very admirable, normal people, but they either aren't or eventually will let go of being National-Socialist. The intellectual circles within the movement shove Jünger and the likes down your throat to keep you away from NS. These people eventually end up wanting a new Reich with Bismarck's glorydays as a point of reference. I can understand them though, when you consider how NS manifests itself within the movement.

But like 123 says, there are independent groups of Autonomen and Nationaler Sozialisten, especially in East-Germany, that are semi-openly National-Socialist. Sometimes a good group comes out of this, but then the problem usually becomes that damn government repression and the group just falls apart (search warrant usually does the trick, you can get arrested and persecuted for posession of this or that).

Some free spirits do wander around, but they're not organised and usually deem the movement to be a bunch of amateuresque untermenschen.

What would help is a new centralised and well organised movement like they have in Italy. The NPD won't do the trick because of a variety of reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m familiar with the German movement and can tell you there&#8217;s all sorts of people. The biggest problem with actual National-Socialism is that those who are, and tell so (hopefully within closed circles), are usually the least admirable Germans. They&#8217;re the hooligans etc. that don&#8217;t read books and usually just drink and listen to Rechtsrock. Then you have those who are very admirable, normal people, but they either aren&#8217;t or eventually will let go of being National-Socialist. The intellectual circles within the movement shove Jünger and the likes down your throat to keep you away from NS. These people eventually end up wanting a new Reich with Bismarck&#8217;s glorydays as a point of reference. I can understand them though, when you consider how NS manifests itself within the movement.</p>
<p>But like 123 says, there are independent groups of Autonomen and Nationaler Sozialisten, especially in East-Germany, that are semi-openly National-Socialist. Sometimes a good group comes out of this, but then the problem usually becomes that damn government repression and the group just falls apart (search warrant usually does the trick, you can get arrested and persecuted for posession of this or that).</p>
<p>Some free spirits do wander around, but they&#8217;re not organised and usually deem the movement to be a bunch of amateuresque untermenschen.</p>
<p>What would help is a new centralised and well organised movement like they have in Italy. The NPD won&#8217;t do the trick because of a variety of reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: 123</title>
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		<dc:creator>123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 10:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friedrich,

thank you for the compliment.

That is difficult for me to say. I know of none personally, but of course due to the situation here as it is, nobody would dare talk freely to anyone. But I do have the impression, that among young people especially in the former GDR/DDR, where there is a high rate of unemployment, and where the prospects for the future of the young people are poor, there is increasingly this mindset. The same would apply, but less so, to the big cities throughout Germany. Here likewise the prospects for young Germans are dim, but here because of the huge and growing majority of immigrants (turks, arabs, etc). One thing is unfortunately very clear: as long as people fare well (financially, materially) in general they are quite satisfied with the system, or should I say, they do not break out from the brainwashing apllied to them. There are only very few exceptions, like myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friedrich,</p>
<p>thank you for the compliment.</p>
<p>That is difficult for me to say. I know of none personally, but of course due to the situation here as it is, nobody would dare talk freely to anyone. But I do have the impression, that among young people especially in the former GDR/DDR, where there is a high rate of unemployment, and where the prospects for the future of the young people are poor, there is increasingly this mindset. The same would apply, but less so, to the big cities throughout Germany. Here likewise the prospects for young Germans are dim, but here because of the huge and growing majority of immigrants (turks, arabs, etc). One thing is unfortunately very clear: as long as people fare well (financially, materially) in general they are quite satisfied with the system, or should I say, they do not break out from the brainwashing apllied to them. There are only very few exceptions, like myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Friedrich Braun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friedrich Braun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 23:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have spoken like a real German.

Do you feel that more and more Germans feel the way you do? I have especially young Germans in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have spoken like a real German.</p>
<p>Do you feel that more and more Germans feel the way you do? I have especially young Germans in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: 123</title>
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		<dc:creator>123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 10:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, indeed. My mother, who was a young girl at the time, often pities us (her children), that we did not and probably never will experience anything like it. She says it is nowadays just inconceivable and for us unimaginable. She is naturally not talking about material wealth (even so everyone finally got around after the lean years before), but about the spirit and sense of freedom and optimism regarding the furure. She always tell us, what a good time (schöne Zeit) it had been. According to her the contrast to the filth and decadence of Germany today (of which she is thorougly disgusted) could not be any bigger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, indeed. My mother, who was a young girl at the time, often pities us (her children), that we did not and probably never will experience anything like it. She says it is nowadays just inconceivable and for us unimaginable. She is naturally not talking about material wealth (even so everyone finally got around after the lean years before), but about the spirit and sense of freedom and optimism regarding the furure. She always tell us, what a good time (schöne Zeit) it had been. According to her the contrast to the filth and decadence of Germany today (of which she is thorougly disgusted) could not be any bigger.</p>
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