The Civic Platform has been launched to discuss and debate issues related to the West viewed as a cultural compound of Greco-Roman, Christian, and Germanic past. We firmly believe that race informs culture and is a necessary precondition for cultural identity and integrity. Hence, this political vehicle is dedicated to the preservation of the ethnic genetic interests (EGI) of people of European ancestry. Furthermore, since the West faces a demographic crisis of unprecedented proportions (for example, in 1950 Whites represented 30 percent of the world’s population. This number will plummet to 8 percent by 2050), we hold that the current trends threatening the racial, historical, and cultural identities of people of European ancestry must be stopped and reversed, if the West is to survive and endure as a distinct racial, historical, and cultural entity.
People with higher IQs are less likely to believe in God, according to a new study.
Professor Richard Lynn, emeritus professor of psychology at Ulster University, said many more members of the “intellectual elite” considered themselves atheists than the national average.
It is somewhat ironic that Professor Lynn should choose The Royal Society for delivery of these eminently sensible comments, bearing in mind the fact that this august association was, throughout its history, heavily populated by illustrious Freemasons whose initiatory oath affirmed a belief in God.
A vague deism is far more preferable to any of the three Abrahamic abominations. Pantheism is the most attractive spirituality around.
Let’s not forget Christianity started in the Asiatic Slums of the Roman Empire, it truly is a gutter religion.
I don’t think there ever was a greater blow ever struck against European man then the coming of Christianity. Christianity is nothing more than a suicide pack with its nonsense about how “the meek shall inherit the earth”, “love thy neighborer”, and etc.
Jesus and his followers were nothing more than the ancient equivalent of modern day hippie and beatnik drum circles.
Dominic Crossan views them as homeless beggars (”Blessed are [we] the poor…”). Bums, basically.
Religion and spirituality is not all about simply “believing in God.” And not all people who believe in God are idiots…just look at all of the eminent thinkers throughout history who have been very religious or spiritual, even after the rise of science.
Just some thoughts: much of the hostility that you (and MANY other Westerners/Europeans) feel toward religion and spirituality is most likely due to the failings and disconnection we feel toward the dominant religion of Western societies, Christianity. I’ll try to reason here why yourself, and myself, and many others feel this way…
First and foremost, Christianity is not a native Western/European form of spirituality/religion but is, in fact, a JEWISH form of religion/spirituality, formed and spread by Jews and, at least at first, invented specifically for Jews (see Romans 1:16). Christianity is, I believe, a form of “religious imperialism” that was slowly forced upon Westerners/Europeans in order to bring them under control, to ‘civilize’ them, to demonize their native religious cultures, to JUDAIZE them.
Christianity was centralized in Rome under the Catholic Church for a very long time, and Rome was (for a long time) swarming with Jewish Christians (ethnic Jews who followed the Christian religion) who were high in the Catholic hierarchy and sought to impose this form of alien spirituality across the entire European West, often through violence. Note that the more naturally antisemitic portions of Europe like Russia, Greece, etc formed other Christian systems which lay beyond the tentacles of Judaized Rome. And Protestant Christianity was eventually formed in Germany by Martin Luther who became a radical antisemite toward the end of his life (see his book ON THE JEWS AND THEIR LIES).
If you are near a university library I recommend the book NEW RELIGIONS AND THE NAZIS by Karla Poewe (Routledge, 2005) to further understand how the Nazis also saw Christianity as a form of Jewish spiritual/cultural imperialism and sought to slowly eradicate it from European culture and allow more native, natural, and ancient forms of religion and spirituality to emerge in The West. They too recognized that very many Westerners/Europeans feel a huge disconnection with Christianity because it is essentially Jewish, i.e. Christianity is Oriental and not Occidental and thus is fundamentally incompatible with the Western yearning for spirituality/religion. I don’t see much about Jesus and Poppa YHWH in the ancient European religious sites (stone circles, mounds, etc) in Germany, England, France, Ireland, Scandinavia, Poland, and so forth (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_archaeoastronomical_sites_sorted_by_country). It’s because those religion ideas had not yet made their way out of the Near East yet and tainted Europe.
Also, if you’ve ever read the New Testament, you’ll recognize that much of it was/is considered ‘antisemitic’ by most standards, and that Jesus was definitely an antisemite if he in fact existed. But Christianity does at least have some definite spiritual dimensions when opposed to the dry legalism of traditional Talmudic Judaism (which is more about Jewish ethnic purity and boring rituals rather than God and the spiritual realm).
You might also want to check out some of the ancient Hindu texts like the BHAGAVAD GITA who many believe represent some forms of ancient European/Western ‘pagan’ spirituality since it were the European Aryans who invaded and settled in portions of India who were responsible for much of Hinduism.
We can do without religion. The Nordic countries prove it every day. There, most of the population is atheist. If one excludes the psychologically medieval and pre-modern immigrants, 2/3 of those nations are atheist. They also happen to be the most cohesive, law-abiding, and wealthy nations on earth. We don’t need religion, these stupid and childish mythologies that belong to humanity’s infancy. You’re an atheist yourself, I don’t see why you plead in their defense.
I too admire the Nordic countries’ majority atheism but, sadly, their governments adopt a supinely suicidal Christian-style attitude towards Third World “refugees”, economic migrants and other non-White thieves and beggars,allowing them to settle where they have no business to be while wasting their taxpayers’ money on them and also on that bane of Africa,”foreign aid”. Only Denmark seems to be slowly learning its lesson in this regard.
“You’re an atheist yourself, I don’t see why you plead in their defense.”
No, I’m not. I’m more of an agnostic with some spiritual leanings, possibly maybe a “vague deist” as you term it. I think you have me confused with another user.
“We can do without religion.”
Various forms of religion/spirituality have existed in every culture throughout time, and they are an indispensable part of any society. Who are we to just discard something so profound and primordial in the matter of a couple generations?
Additionally, when religion/spirituality is lost so are vital community connections and valuable communal traditions. Many people who frequent churches/mosques/synagogues/temples/etc don’t go because they like to be spoon-fed fantastic fairy tales about the Big Bad God(s) in the sky, but because of the social connections with like minded individuals which they find in these religious communities. When religion is lost, so are many forms of cultural continuity. Just look at the pathetic attempt of the YMCA to replace the church or the JCC to replace the synagogue — it doesn’t really work at all. Or notice how political/economic doctrines (like democracy or communism) or pet causes (like environmentalism or technology) have (unsuccessfully) replaced religion for some, but the vast majority of people still yearn for the spiritual side of life and simply aren’t fulfilled by worshipping capitalism or the Democrats or the melting ice caps.
I’m all for taking those empty churches throughout Europe and filling them up with discussion groups (either religious or secular: no matter), or excellent libraries, or regular meetings (’ritualistic gatherings’) of all types for any and all religions or spiritual systems. Sure, go ahead and discard the fanciful and outdated religions and stale rituals if you wish, but for God’s sake White/European societies should do all that they can to retain the social ferment and interaction which these places afford.
Please note that forms of militant atheism, communism, and modern science are tainted with the BIAS of atheism through and through (yes, even science is BIASED by atheism). And since this is a site which is keenly aware of the Jewish Question also note that a very high percentage of the most vocal proponents of these radically atheistic doctrines throughout history have been Jews, possibly in an attempt (either conscious or unconscious?) to further undermine the moral and social foundations of Western societies.
Even if it’s just an informal discussion group in someone’s house which meets on Thursday nights, lights bonfires on the solstices/equinoxes, and reads passages from the TAO TE CHING or another random religious text (Unitarian Universalism maybe?), I believe that people have the duty to preserve some sense of the religious and spiritual in order to also help preserve the social fabric of a society.
“No, I’m not. I’m more of an agnostic with some spiritual leanings, possibly maybe a “vague deist” as you term it. I think you have me confused with another user.”
Is this Fade? You’re changing your pennames too often.
No, this is not “Fade.” I have no idea who that is.
Okay, I apologize then. Do I know you under a different penname?
Zsidozas, the toothpase is out of the tube and it’s a waste of time to try to put it back in, nor do I think it advisable to try. Western Europe, Japan, Canada, and Australia present post-religious societies and there’s no use in nostalgically bewailing their loss of the religious sentiment. Other parts of the industrial world are moving in that same godless direction, even the U.S.! As an aside, I have no idea what you’d like to see occur or what is it that you’re advocating here. You don’t seem to be pleading in behalf of re-Christianizing the West (as that is impossible at any rate, even the Pople understands that), so what do you want or propose?
No, I don’t think you know me under a different penname.
And no I don’t plead for the re-Christianization of The West since, as I’ve written about here, Christianity is a Jewish/Oriental invention and thus is fundamentally incompatible with Western/Occidental societies.
What I propose is the preservation or even the invention of new forms of collective religious/spiritual systems in Western societies because of the strong communal and social interaction which such congregations and regular gatherings spawn — sadly, much of this has been presently been lost, much to the detriment of social/communal cohesion in Western cultures. See my earlier posts for those ideas.
Have you read de Benoist’s On Being a Pagan http://www.amazon.com/Being-Pagan-Alan-Benoist/dp/0972029222 ?