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	<description>The Civic Platform has been launched to discuss and debate issues related to the West viewed as a cultural compound of Greco-Roman, Christian, and Germanic past. We firmly believe that race informs culture and is a necessary precondition for cultural identity and integrity. Hence, this political vehicle is dedicated to the preservation of the ethnic genetic interests (EGI) of people of European ancestry. Furthermore, since the West faces a demographic crisis of unprecedented proportions (for example, in 1950 Whites represented 30 percent of the world's population. This number will plummet to 8 percent by 2050), we hold that the current trends threatening the racial, historical, and cultural identities of people of European ancestry must be stopped and reversed, if the West is to survive and endure as a distinct racial, historical, and cultural entity.</description>
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		<title>By: Friedrich Braun</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2008/06/20/nietzsche-on-history-for-life/#comment-29258</link>
		<dc:creator>Friedrich Braun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anything, Nietzsche should be thanked for pointing out that Rights and Justice are phantoms of bourgeois society and for condemning abstract morality. I find his anti-liberalism, among many other things, extremely useful for my ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anything, Nietzsche should be thanked for pointing out that Rights and Justice are phantoms of bourgeois society and for condemning abstract morality. I find his anti-liberalism, among many other things, extremely useful for my ends.</p>
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		<title>By: Zsidozas</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2008/06/20/nietzsche-on-history-for-life/#comment-29253</link>
		<dc:creator>Zsidozas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to repost what I recently wrote about Nietzsche here in a recent thread (http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2008/06/05/philosophic-idealism/#comments):

"A brilliant writer for sure — however, I believe that he was more of a ‘raver’ instead of a ‘philosopher’ though since he never really systematized anything. Life cut too short by madness and the associated tragedies, I suppose.

Anyhow, echoing some themes from the previous posts on this thread, Nietzsche was not much of an idealist or an optimist — and so he was more of a pessimist and cynic. Thus, he was a philosemite and not an antisemite, of course! And he utterly despised Christianity just like the Jews traditionally have, too."

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The more I study Nietzsche the more I realize how thoroughly Judaized the man was.  This is backed up by some historical/biographical details, e.g. his break with Wagner, who was an outspoken and famous antisemite; he had some close Jewish friends (notably Paul Ree, amongst others) who apparently influenced many of his views; he was romantically involved with Jewish women; he fanatically despised Christianity; and so on.

In ON THE GENEALOGY OF MORALITY he really goes off the deep end, actually praising "Jewish hatred" [of The West?  or of humanity as a whole?] as "the deepest and most sublime kind of love," endlessly praising their predatory, 'high and mighty' culture (without ever mentioning their parasitism, of course).  He frequently contrasts the European/Western vs. Jewish systems of morality, comparing the Jews with high-flying birds-of-prey who 'rightfully' and easily prey upon the vulnerable and 'stupid' lambs (Gentiles).  However, in my opinion anyone who knows a good deal about Jewish history realizes that Jews are actually a lot more like vultures than any of the truly noble predatory birds like eagles or hawks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to repost what I recently wrote about Nietzsche here in a recent thread (http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2008/06/05/philosophic-idealism/#comments):</p>
<p>&#8220;A brilliant writer for sure — however, I believe that he was more of a ‘raver’ instead of a ‘philosopher’ though since he never really systematized anything. Life cut too short by madness and the associated tragedies, I suppose.</p>
<p>Anyhow, echoing some themes from the previous posts on this thread, Nietzsche was not much of an idealist or an optimist — and so he was more of a pessimist and cynic. Thus, he was a philosemite and not an antisemite, of course! And he utterly despised Christianity just like the Jews traditionally have, too.&#8221;</p>
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<p>The more I study Nietzsche the more I realize how thoroughly Judaized the man was.  This is backed up by some historical/biographical details, e.g. his break with Wagner, who was an outspoken and famous antisemite; he had some close Jewish friends (notably Paul Ree, amongst others) who apparently influenced many of his views; he was romantically involved with Jewish women; he fanatically despised Christianity; and so on.</p>
<p>In ON THE GENEALOGY OF MORALITY he really goes off the deep end, actually praising &#8220;Jewish hatred&#8221; [of The West?  or of humanity as a whole?] as &#8220;the deepest and most sublime kind of love,&#8221; endlessly praising their predatory, &#8216;high and mighty&#8217; culture (without ever mentioning their parasitism, of course).  He frequently contrasts the European/Western vs. Jewish systems of morality, comparing the Jews with high-flying birds-of-prey who &#8216;rightfully&#8217; and easily prey upon the vulnerable and &#8217;stupid&#8217; lambs (Gentiles).  However, in my opinion anyone who knows a good deal about Jewish history realizes that Jews are actually a lot more like vultures than any of the truly noble predatory birds like eagles or hawks.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptikos</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2008/06/20/nietzsche-on-history-for-life/#comment-29250</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeptikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Friedrich Braun

It is not so much about what they preach, or how they make things appear, but where it does lead to. Nietzsche's philosophy has a lot of flaws and anti-social tendencies which give it a destructive and adverse nature very similar to Marxism. 


@ Darren
 
Marxism uses the lower class only in order to topple the old  ruling class and bring about a new order. Marxism is a mean to reach power by means of deceit.Marxism has no interest in the proletarians but to use the stupid and uneducated to gain power by making them believe that they are exploited  using promises that are more often than not impossible to keep and usually forgotten once they have fullfilled their purpose. Insert the Jews as the "Übermenschen" and western civilization as the old decadent past which has to go and Nietzsche's philosophy is pretty much conform to the ideas behind Marxism and the Jewish way of doing business.

When you liberate the "good" from concepts like moral and fairness than you arrive at a huge problem. Good for whom? That the "good" is what is beneficial is clear but what for one person is beneficial may be adverse for another. What is good for me for example must not necessarily be good for you and the same goes the other way around. Who is to rule and to decide what is healthy? And even more important, healthy for whom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Friedrich Braun</p>
<p>It is not so much about what they preach, or how they make things appear, but where it does lead to. Nietzsche&#8217;s philosophy has a lot of flaws and anti-social tendencies which give it a destructive and adverse nature very similar to Marxism. </p>
<p>@ Darren</p>
<p>Marxism uses the lower class only in order to topple the old  ruling class and bring about a new order. Marxism is a mean to reach power by means of deceit.Marxism has no interest in the proletarians but to use the stupid and uneducated to gain power by making them believe that they are exploited  using promises that are more often than not impossible to keep and usually forgotten once they have fullfilled their purpose. Insert the Jews as the &#8220;Übermenschen&#8221; and western civilization as the old decadent past which has to go and Nietzsche&#8217;s philosophy is pretty much conform to the ideas behind Marxism and the Jewish way of doing business.</p>
<p>When you liberate the &#8220;good&#8221; from concepts like moral and fairness than you arrive at a huge problem. Good for whom? That the &#8220;good&#8221; is what is beneficial is clear but what for one person is beneficial may be adverse for another. What is good for me for example must not necessarily be good for you and the same goes the other way around. Who is to rule and to decide what is healthy? And even more important, healthy for whom?</p>
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		<title>By: Friedrich Braun</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2008/06/20/nietzsche-on-history-for-life/#comment-29235</link>
		<dc:creator>Friedrich Braun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nietzsche was an anti-socialist, so I can't see him as a forerunner of Marxism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nietzsche was an anti-socialist, so I can&#8217;t see him as a forerunner of Marxism.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't agree with everything Nietzsche says (Nietzsche has a rather naive and absurd outlook on Jews, for example), but he is hardly the philosophical underpinning for Marxism (and communists don't like him very much either).

Marxism embodies slave revolt and the inversion of master morality into slave morality. Saying that Nietzsche is a the philosophical enabler of Marxism is absurd.

Perhaps Nietzsche's key idea is the idea of a few strong, noble, and able people rising to power where they belong and directing people based on what is good (in a non-moral sense) and healthy, rather than what is "fair" or "good" as Christians, moralists, communists, and dogmatists would see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with everything Nietzsche says (Nietzsche has a rather naive and absurd outlook on Jews, for example), but he is hardly the philosophical underpinning for Marxism (and communists don&#8217;t like him very much either).</p>
<p>Marxism embodies slave revolt and the inversion of master morality into slave morality. Saying that Nietzsche is a the philosophical enabler of Marxism is absurd.</p>
<p>Perhaps Nietzsche&#8217;s key idea is the idea of a few strong, noble, and able people rising to power where they belong and directing people based on what is good (in a non-moral sense) and healthy, rather than what is &#8220;fair&#8221; or &#8220;good&#8221; as Christians, moralists, communists, and dogmatists would see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Friedrich Braun</title>
		<link>http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2008/06/20/nietzsche-on-history-for-life/#comment-29232</link>
		<dc:creator>Friedrich Braun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don't have a deep understanding of Nietzsche. As an anti-liberal, "aristocratic" thinker, he's of great value to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have a deep understanding of Nietzsche. As an anti-liberal, &#8220;aristocratic&#8221; thinker, he&#8217;s of great value to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeptikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never understood why people interested in nationalism and preserving our heritage and way of life often quote and cherish Nietzsche. Nietzsche's philosophy is highly "zerzetzend" and focuses on many of those elements of western society and thought communism and cultural Marxism also attacked in their still ongoing attempt to bring western civilzation down. It is a negation of all those values and elements that made Europe great and to something special. In many ways the philosophy of Nietzsche is a clear forerunner of Marxist ideology. 

Dishonesty, moral relativism, selfishness, the philosophy of Nietzsche at once preaches and represents many aspects of what is wrong in the world today and stands in direct antagonism to the traditional European way of live and thought. I guess that many lack the capacity to see beyond the concept of the "Übermensch" and are unable to see that the "Übermensch", like described by Nietzsche, resembles the Jews in many ways and that a society made of such selfish and dishonest creatures could never work. The philosophy of Hegel was based on idealism and focused on improvement, improvement of oneself, improvement of society, in it itself a reason and cause for existence. Nietzsche's philosophy is "dynamite", to use Nietzsche's own words, and focused only on destruction. Dynamite can never be used to construct something but only to destroy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never understood why people interested in nationalism and preserving our heritage and way of life often quote and cherish Nietzsche. Nietzsche&#8217;s philosophy is highly &#8220;zerzetzend&#8221; and focuses on many of those elements of western society and thought communism and cultural Marxism also attacked in their still ongoing attempt to bring western civilzation down. It is a negation of all those values and elements that made Europe great and to something special. In many ways the philosophy of Nietzsche is a clear forerunner of Marxist ideology. </p>
<p>Dishonesty, moral relativism, selfishness, the philosophy of Nietzsche at once preaches and represents many aspects of what is wrong in the world today and stands in direct antagonism to the traditional European way of live and thought. I guess that many lack the capacity to see beyond the concept of the &#8220;Übermensch&#8221; and are unable to see that the &#8220;Übermensch&#8221;, like described by Nietzsche, resembles the Jews in many ways and that a society made of such selfish and dishonest creatures could never work. The philosophy of Hegel was based on idealism and focused on improvement, improvement of oneself, improvement of society, in it itself a reason and cause for existence. Nietzsche&#8217;s philosophy is &#8220;dynamite&#8221;, to use Nietzsche&#8217;s own words, and focused only on destruction. Dynamite can never be used to construct something but only to destroy!</p>
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