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Thanks for this message.

I agree with Fredrick’s defense of Horst Mahler, even though HM’s style might leave something to be desired at times.

I am the same age as HM and have gone through a somewhat similar political metamorphosis from “left” to “right”, insofar as those terms still have relevance; although I was not a hero in the fray as HM has been.

I do not know how familiar HM is with the writings of Ralph Waldo Emerson but I suspect he would agree that “a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”

Most of us who are blessed (or cursed) with curiosity about what is going on in the world and why, have to accept new ideas and new realities as we go through life, and we have to change our opinions accordingly.

I would say HM realizes that the struggle for freedom is a war fought on many fronts, not the least important of which is the rhetorical front.

Whether HM really believes that Hitler was a messiah for our times or not, he sees the rhetorical value of praising the German dictator, if for no other reason than because Hitler is the most officially vilified man of modern times.

The ordinary person has been brainwashed to go into rejectionist mode whenever he hears “Hitler;” and if he should entertain neutral or nonhostile thoughts, he has been conditioned to feel the same sort of guilt that a young child feels when he soils his trousers.

What better way to rhetorically counter this brainwashing than to yell “Heil Hitler!” at every opportunity?

Whatever one’s opinion of the last authentic German chancellor, one has to admire HM’s heretical determination to expose and violate official taboos and liberate his countrymen from censorship and repression!

To me it seems highly unlikely that HM is a latter-day BRDDR “Apparatchik” like Merkel.

His scurrilous behavior speaks for itself but to me it seems more likely that he is exposing political charade than acting it out.

Regards, jmd

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On Sun, 22/6/08, Carl Wernerhoff wrote:

Hi all,

I’d be interested in hearing what other people think about Horst Mahler. Personally, I’m rather suspicious. He was involved in the so-called radical leftwing terrorism in Germany in the late 70s but he ‘doesn’t want to talk about that now’ (which is rather convenient). Now, he’s a publicly-visible ‘neo-Nazi.’ Isn’t it more like he’s a BRD intelligence agent playing a new role?

I certainly suspect that Mahler’s ‘neo-Nazism’ is a case of scriptbook playacting. If I were a neo-Nazi, I certainly wouldn’t agree to an interview with a Jewish journalist, since it’s obvious that whatever I said would be twisted by him and that the article would be heavily biased against me. Even if I did agree to an interview with a Jewish journalist, I certainly wouldn’t greet him with ‘Heil Hitler.’ In fact, if I were a neo-Nazi, I wouldn’t greet anyone that way, for the obvious reason that Hitler is dead, which makes the greeting rather absurd. The Horst Mahler thing strikes me rather as a charade and perhaps is designed to help make neo-Nazis look ridiculous.

Regards,
Carl.

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Here’s freedom to him who would speak,
Here’s freedom to him who would write;
For there’s none ever feared that the truth should be heard,
Save him whom the truth would indict!
ROBERT BURNS (1759–96)

– On Sun, 22/6/08, Carl Wernerhoff wrote:

From: Carl Wernerhoff <>
Subject: Re: [Australia-First] Re: Fwd: VF Interview auf Adelaide Institute
To: Australia-First@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 22 June, 2008, 12:46 AM

Hi all,

I’d be interested in hearing what other people think about Horst Mahler.

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Comment from Fredrick Töben:

1. Horst Mahler will not let himself be intimidated - neither physically, culturally nor legally - by his enemy who would love nothing better than to have Germans-who-still-want-to-be Germans cower about German WWII history.

2. This means Mahler deliberately is breaking the many taboos that keep Germans mentally locked up, enslaved and almost enjoying being mentally raped by their enemies. Remember, Germans went from National Socialism to National masochism.

3. Hence, when the opportunity is given to address Germany’s past, any German should be free to address anyone with Heil Hitler or Sieg Heil, or whatever greeting that was used during the Third Reich, otherwise the German enemy determines the German dialogue as is currently the practice -

4. Likewise with my Court Orders – I will state in court that I regard the Jewish Holocaust-Shoah a massive lie – Mahler said that to Friedman and thereby broke a law. I will assert this on 5 August because a Court Order that prevents me from speaking the truth is and must be disobeyed – otherwise I am submitting myself to voluntary mental rape that Jeremy Jones would love to commit on me – via the proxy Australian Court system, of course, because he would never do anything like that directly to me on account of his feigned hurt feeling that I am apparently inflicting upon him by telling the truth.

5. At the 5 August 2008 trial at Adelaide it will be determined whether the 17 September 2002 proxy Court Orders as written up by Justice Branson were designed to prevent me from telling the truth about the Jewish Holocaust-Shoah lies. Are court orders that prevent you from telling the truth to be obeyed?

6. Such is life – that my world view includes my cherished God-given right to tell the truth and to reject outright an acceptance of those wearisome tales passed off as eyewitness accounts as to what Germans allegedly did to Jews during World War Two, namely, systematically exterminate six million Jews mainly in homicidal gas chambers.

FT